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Lesson 5 — Where From, Where To?

Today: greeting and saying goodbye like a friend, the question and the “aren’t you…?” in the present tense — and the three cases of place: where, where to and where from.

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1Hello and goodbye: the full set

In Lesson 1 you said hello, gave your name and found out that Güle güle is what the person staying behind says. Today we fill in the rest: how to greet a friend rather than your boss, what to say to “so, how’s it going?”, and how to leave so the right words follow you out the door.

Selam!
Ne haber?
Ne var ne yok?
İyilik sağlık.
Fena değilim.
Her şey yolunda.
Ne tesadüf!
Kolay gelsin!

Ne var ne yok is built out of two words from Lesson 2: var and yok. Literally, “what’s there and what isn’t?”. Nobody wants the full inventory — İyilik sağlık, and you’re off.

And Kolay gelsin is worth taking home today. You say it to anyone in the middle of a job: the man stacking tomatoes, the neighbour halfway through a renovation, someone hunched over a laptop. English has nothing like it, which is exactly why it lands. Say it to a waiter and watch his face.

Now the goodbyes — and here Turkish wants to know which side of the door you’re on. The one leaving says one thing, the one staying says another.

Hoşça kal!
Hoşça kalın!
Allahaısmarladık!
Yarın görüşürüz!
Görüşmek üzere!
İyi yolculuklar!
Tatlı rüyalar!

Hoşça kal literally means “stay pleasantly”. And the Güle güle you get back is “go laughing”. So it’s a little exchange across the doorstep: one wishes the other a good stay, the other wishes a good going.

Hoşça kal! — Güle güle! — Bye! — Bye!

2Asking with a verb: geliyor musun?

In Lesson 4 every question hung on a question word: Ne yapıyorsun?, Kaç dil biliyorsun? There was no way to ask a plain “are you coming?”. Now there is, and there’s almost nothing new to learn: it’s Lesson 2’s particle mı, put after the -yor.

gel + iyor, then mu + sun as a separate word — “are you coming?”

Remember how in Lesson 2 the personal ending moved onto the particle: doktor muyum?, öğrenci misin? Same thing here. The verb stops at -yor, and the “who” moves onto the mu, as a separate word.

And now a present — the second one -yor has handed you. It never changes and always ends in an “o”, so the particle after it never changes either: it’s always mu. No picking between mı/mi/mu/mü here — every verb in this tense takes mu.

Ben geliyor muyum? — Am I coming?
Sen geliyor musun? — Are you coming?
O geliyor mu? — Is he / she coming?
Biz geliyor muyuz? — Are we coming?
Siz geliyor musunuz? — Are you coming? (plural / polite)
Onlar geliyorlar mı? — Are they coming?

One exception, and it makes sense. With onlar the -lar stays on the verb and the particle comes after it — where it listens to harmony again: geliyorlar mı? And if you leave the -lar off, which you’ll remember is allowed, it’s simply geliyor mu?

The stress lands on the syllable just before the particle: geliYOR musun? The mu itself is unstressed and slips past. And you answer with the whole verb — no var needed.

Türkçe biliyor musun? — Evet, biraz biliyorum. — Do you know Turkish? — Yes, a little.
Çay içiyor musunuz? — Hayır, içmiyoruz. — Are you having tea? — No, we’re not.

And one trap. If the question already has a question word in it — ne, nerede, kaç — leave the mu out. The word is doing the asking; a particle would turn one question into two.

Ne yapıyorsun? — What are you doing? — no mu

3“Aren’t you…?” The negative question

It sounds fearsome and it’s about as simple as it gets. Take last lesson’s negative and put the question you’ve just learned after it: gelmiyor + musun. That’s it.

gel + mi + yor, then mu + sun — “aren’t you coming?”

You reach for it when you’re surprised — “you’re not coming?”. Or when you’re offering something, because in Turkish this is a very soft way to invite. Çay içmiyor musun? — “won’t you have some tea?”. A host who asks it like that isn’t really expecting a no, as Lesson 1 may have taught you already.

Gelmiyor musun? — Aren’t you coming?
Çay içmiyor musun? — Won’t you have some tea?
Türkçe anlamıyor musunuz? — Don’t you understand Turkish?
Onlar gelmiyorlar mı? — Aren’t they coming?

And here’s where last lesson’s hiç earns its keep. In a question like this it adds honest astonishment.

Hiç tavla oynamıyor musun? — You don’t play backgammon at all?!

The present tense now has all four of its forms. Here they are side by side, one verb, for “you”. Two switches do all the work: -mi- inside the word for “not”, and mu after it for a question. Read them out loud from the top.

geliyorsun — you’re coming
gelmiyorsun — you’re not coming
geliyor musun? — are you coming?
gelmiyor musun? — aren’t you coming?

4Where, where to, where from: the three cases of place

Back in Lesson 2 you found out Turkish has no prepositions, and you got your first ending of place: -da, “where”. It has two siblings — one answers “where to?”, the other “where from?”. Between the three of them they cover nearly everything you can do with a place: be there, go there, come away from there.

One house, three endings: in it, into it, out of it.
Deniz evde. — Deniz is at home.
Deniz eve geliyor. — Deniz is coming home.
Deniz evden çıkıyor. — Deniz is leaving the house.

The questions all grow from one root: nerede — where, nereye — where to, nereden — where from. For people it’s the same: kimde — who has it, kime — to whom, kimden — from whom.

nerede? nereye? nereden? — where? where to? where from?
kimde? kime? kimden? — who has it? to whom? from whom?

And one detail about -da that Lesson 2 left for today. It behaves itself with the pronouns, except that o picks up an n before the ending: onda — “he’s got it”. That n will turn up on o in front of all three cases.

bende, sende, onda — I’ve got it, you’ve got it, he’s got it

5Where from? -dan / -den / -tan / -ten

Good news: you nearly know this one already. Take Lesson 2’s -da and add an n. Everything else — four variants, harmony, the voiceless consonants of Fıstıkçı Şahap — works exactly the same way.

Back vowel, voiced ending

a ı o u
-dan

okul → okuldan, İstanbul → İstanbul’dan

Front vowel, voiced ending

e i ö ü
-den

ev → evden, Kadıköy → Kadıköy’den

Back vowel, voiceless ending

a ı o u
-tan

sokak → sokaktan, dolap → dolaptan

Front vowel, voiceless ending

e i ö ü
-ten

ofis → ofisten, Mehmet → Mehmet’ten

No surprises with the pronouns — except that same o with its n.

benden, senden, ondan — from me, from you, from him

The commonest reason you’ll need it is the question you get asked two minutes into meeting anyone. Word for word it’s “where are you coming from?”, and it means “where are you from?”.

Nereden geliyorsun? — Moskova’dan geliyorum. — Where are you from? — From Moscow.

And a few verbs that insist on “from” where English wouldn’t dream of it. In Turkish you’re scared FROM something. You like FROM someone, too. There’s no point arguing with it — just learn a couple of examples whole.

Martılardan korkuyorum. — I’m scared of seagulls.
Senden hoşlanıyorum. — I like you.

Careful with Senden hoşlanıyorum: it isn’t “you’re a nice person”, it’s “I like you” in that sense. And almak, “to take, to buy”, always wonders where the thing came from: the market, the shop, Ali. The verbs that take you out of a place go here too: leaving the house, getting off the ferry.

Pazardan elma alıyorum. — I buy apples at the market.
Evden çıkıyorum. — I’m leaving the house.
Vapurdan iniyoruz. — We’re getting off the ferry.

6Where to? -a / -e

The third case is the shortest: a single vowel. And harmony is back to two teams here, like -lar/-ler in Lesson 1 — -a after back vowels, -e after front ones.

The back team

a ı o u
-a

okul → okula, İstanbul → İstanbul’a

The front team

e i ö ü
-e

ev → eve, Kadıköy → Kadıköy’e

The ending starts with a vowel, and Turkish won’t let two vowels sit together. So after a vowel the familiar buffer y slides in again.

araba → arabaya — car → into the car
bahçe → bahçeye — garden → into the garden
Ankara → Ankara’ya — Ankara → to Ankara
Ali → Ali’ye — Ali → to Ali

The second quirk is one you’ve met too. Remember gitmek turning into gidiyorum? A voiceless consonant that ends up in front of a vowel goes soft. Same here: if a word is longer than one syllable and ends in p, ç, t or k, they become b, c, d and ğ before -a/-e.

kitap → kitaba — book → into the book
ağaç → ağaca — tree → to the tree
simit → simide — simit → at the simit
sokak → sokağa — street → out into the street

Short one-syllable words usually leave it alone: süt → süte, top → topa. And notice that -da and -dan never cause it — sokakta, sokaktan — because they start with a consonant. The softening only happens when a vowel comes straight after.

The pronouns have one surprise: ben and sen change their vowel — bana, sana. The rest behave themselves, and o picks up its n as usual.

bana, sana, ona, bize, size, onlara — to me, to you, to him, to us, to you, to them

The verbs of motion — gitmek, gelmek — take “where to”, no surprises there. But bakmak, “to look”, wants -a/-e as well: in Turkish you always look TO somewhere. And binmek, “to get on” a bus or a boat, belongs here too.

Okula gidiyorum. — I’m going to school.
Bana bakıyor musun? — Are you looking at me?
Vapura biniyoruz. — We’re getting on the ferry.

Karaköy’den Kadıköy’e — “from Karaköy to Kadıköy”. Two cases, two words, and there’s your route. Which is exactly the route coming up next.

7Türkiye up close: which side is “the other side”

In Lesson 2 we went to the market in Kadıköy and kept quiet about one detail: from the old centre you don’t drive there, you sail. Istanbul sits on both shores of the Bosphorus and is used to thinking of itself in halves. The European shore is Avrupa yakası, the Asian one Anadolu yakası.

Vapur — the city ferry. Karaköy to Kadıköy is about twenty minutes.

Yaka actually means “collar”. But the dictionary also gives it “shore, side”, and even “neighbourhood”. So, taken literally, Istanbul lives on the two collars of one city. And the patch you actually live in is your semt: Hangi semttesin? — “which part of town are you in?”.

Between the collars runs the vapur. You could take a bridge — a köprü; there are three over the Bosphorus — but people who have the choice often pick the ferry. Twenty minutes of water, a çaycı working the deck with his tray, a cousin of the one from Lesson 3, so tea halfway across is guaranteed.

Gulls — martı — follow every ferry out, and not for the view. For years passengers threw them bits of simit, and the gulls learned the route better than most tourists. People throw less these days: simit has got pricier, and bread isn’t much good for birds anyway. Nobody has told the gulls, though, and they still meet every sailing.

And the most Istanbul thing of all. The other shore is simply karşı — “across”. Karşıya geçiyorum — “I’m crossing over”. Which shore counts as “across”, though, depends on where you’re standing, and people argue about it in earnest. For a long time, Kadıköy people heading for the European shore would say İstanbul’a gidiyorum — “I’m going to Istanbul” — without ever having left it.

Notice anything? Karşıya, İstanbul’a — that’s today’s -a. The whole of ferry-going Istanbul runs on two cases.

8Dialogue: fancy meeting you here

Ayşe and Can bump into each other by the pier. The greetings from the first section, questions with mu, and all three cases — in one short conversation. Plus a small worry about Deniz.

Ayşe:
Selam, Can! Ne tesadüf!
Can:
Selam! Ne var ne yok?
Ayşe:
İyilik sağlık. Nereye gidiyorsun?
Can:
Karşıya geçiyorum, Kadıköy’e. Sen de geliyor musun?
Ayşe:
Hayır, ben Kadıköy’den geliyorum! Şimdi eve gidiyorum.
Can:
Peki Deniz nerede? Evde mi?
Ayşe:
Evde değil, iskelede! Bugün ilk kez karşıya geçiyor.
Can:
İlk kez mi? Martılardan korkmuyor mu?
Ayşe:
Bilmiyorum. Sen de iskeleye gitmiyor musun?
Can:
Gidiyorum! Hoşça kal!
Ayşe:
Güle güle! İyi yolculuklar!

9Reading

Deniz moved in in Lesson 1, lost his key in Lesson 2, was handed Friday in Lesson 3 and found his tongue over a backgammon board in Lesson 4. Today he crosses to the other side for the first time — and meets Istanbul’s most shameless resident. The text is everything you know so far, plus today’s questions and cases.

Deniz karşıya geçiyor

Twenty minutes, one ferry and one extremely forward seagull.

Cumartesi sabah. Deniz ve Can iskelede.
Bugün Deniz ilk kez karşıya geçiyor.
— Vapurdan korkmuyor musun?
— Hayır, hiç korkmuyorum!
Vapura biniyorlar.
Vapurda çay var, simit var.
Deniz bir çay ve bir simit alıyor.
Martılar vapura geliyor: bir, iki, beş, on martı!
Martılar Deniz’e bakıyor.
— Can, onlar bana mı bakıyor?
— Sana değil. Simide bakıyorlar.
Bir martı geliyor.
Ve simit artık Deniz’de değil.
Simit martıda.
— Ama para vermiyor mu?!
Can gülüyor.
— Martılar para vermiyor, Deniz. Pazarlık da yapmıyor.
Vapur Kadıköy’e geliyor.
Deniz vapurdan iniyor.
İskelede yine simit alıyor — iki simit.
— Bir simit bana, bir simit martıya.
Martı iskelede. Bekliyor.

1Where is the ferry going?

2Who has the simit once the gull has been over?

3Why does Deniz buy two simits?

10The lesson’s new words

Everything new from today, in the order it turned up. The greetings and goodbyes aren’t here: they’re set phrases and they’re better off whole, in the first section. Verbs are in their dictionary form.

New words

  • çıkmakto go out, to leave
  • nereyewhere to
  • neredenwhere from
  • kimeto whom
  • kimdenfrom whom
  • martıseagull
  • korkmakto be afraid (+ -dan)
  • hoşlanmakto like, to fancy (+ -dan)
  • almakto take, to buy
  • vapurferry
  • inmekto get off
  • ağaçtree
  • simitsimit — a sesame bread ring
  • sütmilk
  • topball
  • binmekto get on (a bus, a boat)
  • yakacollar; shore, side
  • semtpart of town
  • köprübridge
  • karşıacross; the other side
  • geçmekto cross, to pass
  • iskelepier, landing stage
  • ilk kezfor the first time
  • vermekto give; to pay (of money)

11Say it yourself

No options to pick from here — you build the answer. Read the cue, say it in Turkish out loud, and only then check. Got it wrong? Good — that’s exactly how it sticks. Peeking first doesn’t help: then you’re practising recognising, not speaking.

are you going home?
won’t you have some tea?
where are you from?
I’m going from Istanbul to Ankara
she’s scared of seagulls
they’re looking at us

12Check yourself

Six items: ferry-going Istanbul, the goodbye across the doorstep, and the three cases. A miss still shows you the right answer, so there’s no shame in guessing.

1What can you see from the ferry? Match each picture to its word.

2“Aren’t you coming?” is…

3You’re leaving someone’s house. What do you say to your hosts?

4Fill in the right form.

Deniz ? korkmuyor.

5And here?

Yarın ? gidiyoruz.

6And the last one: sokak with “where to”.

Can ? bakıyor.

13Homework

Cases, like verbs, don’t go in through the eyes. Everything below is arranged so you say as many “from”s and “to”s out loud as possible. Mixing up -da and -dan at first is normal — everyone does — and it passes sooner than you’d think.

  1. Take five verbs and ask each one out loud, for sen and for siz: geliyor musun?, geliyor musunuz? Then the same five with the negative: gelmiyor musun?
  2. Tell your day’s route in cases: Evden çıkıyorum… Ofise / okula gidiyorum… Akşam eve geliyorum. Wherever you can, a “from” and a “to”.
  3. Put okul, İstanbul, sokak, bahçe and kitap through all three cases — where, to, from. Mark where a y appeared and where a consonant went soft.
  4. Say goodbye properly twice today: once as the one leaving — Hoşça kal! — and once as the one staying — Güle güle! To the cat, if need be, or to a closing door.
  5. Answer Nereden geliyorsun? in a full sentence, with an apostrophe if you answer with a city. Then ask the same question politely, with siz.
  6. And the nicest one: say Kolay gelsin to someone busy at something. If Turkish won’t do, think it at them. The meaning gets through anyway.